tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post989132271372164876..comments2024-03-17T00:10:44.022+00:00Comments on From Arse To Elbow: Perfect is the Enemy of GoodDavid Timoneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03568348438980023320noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-1635739423738861792016-01-31T23:27:15.515+00:002016-01-31T23:27:15.515+00:00Agreed, which is why it is critical to address the...Agreed, which is why it is critical to address the principle of the social dividend, which is potentially redistributive.<br /><br />It would be better to start with a modest BI that had progressive uprating built-in (i.e. majority of growth remitted to BI), rather than a generous BI that didn't and thus declined in real value over time.David Timoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03568348438980023320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-16319050999183697282016-01-31T23:17:05.463+00:002016-01-31T23:17:05.463+00:00Your closing line that, "In the end, there is...Your closing line that, "In the end, there is no feasible way to achieve a free society... without challenging the power of private capital" is spot on.<br />The dichotomy is not NLBI/LBI but rather redistibution/distribution, in other words as you and Ikebe acknowledge ultimately we must address the issue of ownership of capital.<br />I agree that this does not mean that the perfect should become the enemy of the good. But we must not accept any proposal so compromised that it structurally thwarts future progress towards the goal of socialized ownership.<br />The capitalist development of the means of production creates the conditions for the emancipatory transformation of the relations of production. Tim Hallhttp://postcapitalistsociety.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-53430585643349678112016-01-31T20:30:33.574+00:002016-01-31T20:30:33.574+00:00Yes, ultimate if a basic income is introduced then...Yes, ultimate if a basic income is introduced then it is politics that will dictate its level in the long term. You can use the minimum wage as a comparison. When it was created at a derisory level back in 1999 I don't think many people would imagine that it would have been raised to the 'Living Wage' level now, and definitely not by the Tories!Igor Belanovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-58564264213867380322016-01-31T16:06:22.777+00:002016-01-31T16:06:22.777+00:00http://www.3spoken.co.uk/2014/10/the-political-asp...http://www.3spoken.co.uk/2014/10/the-political-aspects-of-basic-income.html<br /><br />Difficulties with BIG.Randomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445772572707818311noreply@blogger.com