tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post2988586971722918702..comments2024-03-17T00:10:44.022+00:00Comments on From Arse To Elbow: Death of a ClownDavid Timoneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03568348438980023320noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-3928408731241993152015-03-15T18:33:25.382+00:002015-03-15T18:33:25.382+00:00"To portray him as the victim of a hiring-and..."To portray him as the victim of a hiring-and-firing culture is ridiculous."<br /><br />I wasn't doing this, simply making a general and universal point.Herbie Kills Childrennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-78124077240627674732015-03-15T15:22:01.754+00:002015-03-15T15:22:01.754+00:00Exactly. Effectively the only way Clarkson could h...Exactly. Effectively the only way Clarkson could have lost out in this furore was for the media to decide it was a non-story and not to report it. This was highly unlikely given that he is both a high profile celebrity and a darling of the right-wing press, who will continue to give him lucrative opportunities to fill column inches with his prejudices.<br /><br />@Herbie- the problem is that people like Clarkson who cultivate a certain profile are given much greater leeway than others. He has already accumulated a string of 'misdemeanours' yet is regarded as untouchable by many. To portray him as the victim of a hiring-and-firing culture is ridiculous. Igor Belanovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-89308061755188490982015-03-15T13:33:50.915+00:002015-03-15T13:33:50.915+00:00As I understand it, the Top Gear team's contra...As I understand it, the Top Gear team's contract is up shortly, so I think this will be a case of non-renewal rather than dismissal. The suspicion is that Clarkson's tantrum revealed a desire to sever relations with the Beeb, but to do so in manner that avoids damage to his self-esteem - i.e. he has chosen martyrdom rather than be let go.David Timoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03568348438980023320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-73024400460362580342015-03-15T11:42:06.936+00:002015-03-15T11:42:06.936+00:00You did well to not mention Jim Davidson in this a...You did well to not mention Jim Davidson in this article!<br /><br />I personally am against this lets fire them culture. I think people should be giving multiple chances and the culture should be one of resolving issues not by firing someone but by getting people into a room.<br /><br />I think firing someone should be a rare occurrence. I see a trend that wants to make hiring and firing as easy as saying, get me a coffee (to which my reply would be get your fucking own)<br /><br />Herbie Kills Childrennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-29636828004738356582015-03-13T19:15:11.991+00:002015-03-13T19:15:11.991+00:00Fair, but I later worked at another law firm where...Fair, but I later worked at another law firm where the post room boys had a punch-up on site - no dismissals. A few years later, the same firm dismissed someone on the same day for laying a finger in someone else, even though he had resigned some time ago for unrelated reasons and had about a week of his notice to go.<br /><br />I'm not supporting workplace lamping - I am very much in favour of the fact that it has, in my personal experience, become increasingly unacceptable. Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014996272817759191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-8464397626916627742015-03-13T12:18:36.987+00:002015-03-13T12:18:36.987+00:00I think your sample is perhaps a little small. I&#...I think your sample is perhaps a little small. I've worked in variety of workplaces over the past twenty years, and at every single one punching a colleague would have resulted in instant dismissal.<br /><br />"Annual five-a-side inter-departmental contests" on the other hand generally take place off premises and out of work time. As do works nights out. I doubt behaviour has improved particularly much in those areas. Plus, five-a-sides still don't involve many women, and works nights out still do involve a lot of drinking. Igor Belanovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312853715123370916.post-11470713078124290252015-03-12T22:21:37.455+00:002015-03-12T22:21:37.455+00:00Not really on point, but the acceptability of lamp...Not really on point, but the acceptability of lamping your colleagues has declined. About 15 yrs ago, I worked at a law firm where the annual five-a-side inter-departmental contest reguarly resulted in a punch-up, and a game against clients ended up with physical threats, against them. (Clients weren't too bothered -"our lawyers are more bastards than your lawyers", they told their rivals.)<br /><br />Amazing the way less drink and more women have changed things. Probably more competitive now, but technical ability has replaced lamping.Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014996272817759191noreply@blogger.com